Crystal 0.2.3 and future plans

[Mark Bainter]

Paul Lettington [paul at plett.co.uk] wrote:
> On Mon, May 09 2005 19:39:07 -0500, Mark Bainter wrote:
> > Paul Lettington [paul at plett.co.uk] wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 09 2005 19:48:28 +0100, Abigail Brady wrote:
> > > > We need a bit of work doing on the following areas soon
> > > > 
> > > I'd have thought status lines would be possible to do by pretending they
> > > are single-line curses windows. That's just guesswork though.
> > 
> > Yeah, but we can't just overlay windows, it would have to be more 
> > like so:
> > 
> > That's probably what you meant, but just making sure.
> 
> That is what I meant. I'm not sure what you mean by overlaying windows
> though. Sort of "translucent" windows where text from lower windows is
> visible?

Well, ncurses has the concept of 'windows' that can overlay the text.
They aren't transparent though, but rather for displaying seperate text.
When you said 'window' I wasn't sure whether you meant that sort of 
'pop-up' style window or the definition we were really speaking of.

> Irssi is a curses based IRC client which has status bars, etc.
> http://irssi.org/themes/green.gif

Yeah, that's the IRC client I use, and like quite a bit.  The status line
it has might be a bit rigid for my taste, but from a display perspective
that's pretty much exactly the layout I'm talking about.  

Mud-client wise I currently use tinyfugue, which has a status line that
works really well, and is very configurable.  IIRC though, Ken uses his
own screen routines, and not curses.  It's been awhile though so my 
memory might be off.

> The other stumbling block is that the Apache WebDAV bits need Apache 2,
> but we're still running 1.3 and have no other reason to upgrade. Maybe
> after Debian Sarge gets released as stable and Apache 2 is just an
> apt-get away.

Yeah, that's a potential issue.  It does have its own standalone 
server software that you can use w/out needing apache, but then you 
have the same risk pserver does, though hopefully not nearly as bad.
It's better written but in the end is still not as proven as apache is.